Advertisement

You will be redirected to the page you want to view in  seconds.

November 22, 2012 at 1:00 am

Chris McCosky

Chris McCosky's Four Downs: Challenge rule needs to be modified

First down

It's what they call an unforeseen consequence. The NFL decided to penalize coaches for throwing a challenge flag on turnovers and scores — plays that are automatically reviewed — for two reasons: To avoid delay of games and to prevent coaches from trying to show up referees.

What they didn't factor in is the natural emotion of moments like the one Thursday, when Lions coach Jim Schwartz's toss of the challenge flag ultimately cost his team a touchdown.

Schwartz knew the rule, but he threw that flag with his heart, not his head. Texans running back Justin Forsett was clearly down — his knee and elbow were on the ground — but he was allowed to get up and run 81 yards for a pivotal touchdown.

"I was so mad they didn't call him down," Schwartz said. "He was obviously down on the field. I had the flag out of my pocket before he even scored the touchdown."

Schwartz knows he blew it and he made no excuses. He told the team on the field the mistake was on him. He wasn't asking anybody for forgiveness.

"No excuses," he said. "You don't challenge turnovers and scores."

He got no sympathy from Texans coach Gary Kubiak.

"Rules are rules," he said when asked if the rule should be changed. "I know one thing, you've got to keep your flag tucked in your pocket. That's all I know. That's what you're supposed to do."

Still, the rule needs to be modified. Schwartz wasn't trying to delay the game, nor was he trying to provoke the official. He just wanted the play to be called correctly. Referees should have the discretion to allow coaches a little time to pick the flag up once they realize their mistake.

"The idea with replay is to get the call right," he said. "Obviously that didn't happen."

Second down

Schwartz was already in bad humor before that play. He had challenged another ruling in the first quarter when Nick Harris' punt appeared to glance off Texans player Glover Quin. The Lions' Erik Coleman recovered it, but officials ruled it wasn't a fumble.

"I was still smarting over that first challenge that wasn't overturned," Schwartz said. "It was pretty obvious it hit the guy and we didn't get the ball. We seemed to be behind a lot of those calls today."

One possible explanation was the ball hit Ashlee Palmer of the Lions first. Replays showed it may have deflected off his hand. Schwartz said that wasn't what officials saw.

"He just said they didn't think it hit the guy," he said. "They didn't say it hit our guy first."

Third down

Schwartz said he didn't see it. Kyle Vanden Bosch didn't see it. Ndamukong Suh did it, but he wasn't talking about it, or anything else afterward.

But you can bet NFL headquarters saw it and will probably send some punitive action Suh's way.

In the first quarter, Suh appeared to kick Texans quarterback Matt Schaub in the groin area. There is some question about intent.

Suh was being flipped by right tackle Derek Newton on the play. It did appear, though, that Suh made the kick with a second movement, a split second after he was flipped.

There is no doubt Schaub thought it was intentional. There is also no doubt Suh will say it wasn't.

What will weaken Suh's case is his history. He is a multiple repeat offender. It was just last Thanksgiving that he earned his two-game suspension with an on-field stomp of a Packers lineman. His past indiscretions will most likely work against him here.

Expect him to be fined, at the least.

Fourth down

The nightmare continues for Brandon Pettigrew.

In the overtime loss at Tennessee, he had a pass ripped out of his hands and returned for a touchdown. On Thursday, as the Lions were driving for a potential winning score against the Texans in overtime, he again had the ball ripped from his hands.

"He's a strong guy and he keeps on running," Schwartz said of the play. "You still have to secure the ball. That was very costly."

Pettigrew had eight catches for 74 yards, but he had several others bounce off his hands. It's been a season-long struggle for him.

"He played a helluva game," fellow tight end Tony Scheffler said. "He really fought out there and played hard. He has been fighting through some things this year and it's been tough. But the guy is a warrior.

"You can't take anything away from that play. The guy (Texans' Danieal Manning) made a good play on the ball. That could've happened to anyone."

chris.mccosky@detnews.com

Twitter: @cmccosky

Lions coach Jim Schwartz, right, throws out the challenge flag in the first quarter. The ruling on the field, as to whether the ball hit a Texans player on a kickoff before the Lions recovered the ball, remained in favor of the Texans. / Robin Buckson/Detroit News

Join the Conversation

The Detroit News aims to provide a forum that fosters smart, civil discussions on the news and events that we cover. The News will not condone personal attacks, off topic posts or brutish language on our site. If you find a comment that you believe violates these standards, please click the "X" in the upper right corner of the post to report it.

  • Policies
  • Community Policy
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of Service


More From Columnists

PhotoStore

Purchase outstanding photos from Detroit's past and present



Jobs Across Michigan

  • From $243,900
    4 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 3 garage, 3,080 sq.ft., 2 story.
    Allen Edwin Homes
    (800) 267-5401
    Featuring over 3,000 square feet of living space, the options for up to six bedrooms, five and a half baths and three stall attached garage.
  • $380,000
    4 Bedrooms, 2 Full Baths, 1 Half Baths
    Cindy
    (888) 366-3890
    To Be Built By Essex Homes/custom Quality At Production Built Price! Move Into New Construction On 10 Acres In 4-5 Months! 2700 Sf, 4br, 2-1/2 Bath, Kitchen W/granite & Birch Cabinets, Hardwood Flrs Inentryway & Powder Rm, Ceramic Flr In Both Baths, Gas Fp, 2-car Attgarage. Lots Of Extras Included & You Pick All The Colors, Cabinets! Need More Room? Chose A Different Floor Plan! No Assoc Rules! Build A Barn, Have Horses Or An Organic Farm! Price Incl Allowances For Well, Septic, Driveway. Does Not Include Clearing Property.
  • $449,000
    2 Bedrooms 3 Full Baths 1 Half Baths 3358 Sq. Ft. ID# 211127042 Year Built: 1989 On HomeFinder.com 12/13/11
    SKBK SOTHEBY'S INTERNATIONAL
    Celeste Cole
    P (877) 670-0569
    Absolutely elegant unit with gorgeous views of pine lake. fabulous master bedroom includes balcony overlooking lake: fireplace, huge walk-in closet, luxurious marble bath, steam shower. beautiful brazilian cherry floors throughout. elevator to all 3 levels. awesome price makes this an opportunity knocking! 3 fireplaces, exercise room, sauna, a wow unit! speakers throughout. boat slip and house.
  • $1,395,000
    4 Bedrooms 4 Full Baths 4100 Sq. Ft. ID# 278633 Year Built: 2004 On HomeFinder.com 05/03/12
    Coldwell Banker Northern Lakes
    P (231) 238-9336
    Deep water docking. large boats up to 36 feet have docked here at this custom built log home. angled perfectly to capture the expansive views mullett lake. extra effort put into the landscaping to not only provide perfect drainage but to give this custom built home a northern michigan decor that will turn the boaters heads. a top quality interlocking seawall, patios and decks same detail. this log home has a wonderful open floor plan. truly a sports persons setting. ideally located in a quiet bay and wooded surrounding. large lot with oversized parking area. top quality throughout. huge storage building with heated workshop. home comes mostly furnished. a hot water system that will not run out of hot water. large master bathroom with jacuzzi. finished walkout basement with fireplace. big wrap around deck. a sun porch, and a storage shed to match at the beach.
  • $262,900
    4 Bedrooms 2 Full Baths 1 Half Baths 2320 Sq. Ft. ID# 31131189 Year Built: 2013 On HomeFinder.com 01/05/13
    Century 21 AAA North-Macomb
    Michael Blake
    P (877) 759-1870
    The gabriella colonial this 2300 sq ft colonial offers 4 bedrooms, 2. 5 baths, 2 car attached garage, 9 first floor ceilings, gas fireplace in family room. everything is included; granite throughout, ross s custom cabinetry, abundant hardwood or ceramic flooring, whirlpool tub in master bath, sod and sprinklers. va approved for all sites. seller is not providing appliances, just giving buyer's a $2000 credit or check for appliances.
  • 195,000
    3 Bedrooms, 2 Full Baths.
    Real Estate One-Southgate
    Penny Tarwacki
    (877) 627-1963
    Very Unique Tri-level!! Approx. 2700 Sq Ft With Cathedral Ceilings, 45 Ft Porch, Oak Kitchen, Wallside Windows, New Roof In 2006, 1 1/2 Acre, Porch Off Of Kitchen, Balcony Off Of The Master, Attached Garage And Attached Shed, Detached Shed W/lean, Open Concept, Claw-foot Tub In Bathroom, Large Storage In Basement 10x12, The List Goes On And On!! Items Included With The Sale: 10ft Xmas Tree, All Appliances Stay, Toro Tractor, All Window Treatment
  • $329,900
    3 Bedrooms 2 Full Baths 1 Half Baths 2600 Sq. Ft. ID# 31122150 Year Built: 1951 On HomeFinder.com 10/07/12
    Lucido & Associates
    Alex M. Lucido
    (855) 326-2147
    Completely updated through-out! Awesome floor plan features a huge foyer leading into the huge kitchen with granite tops and an island with eating area. Large family room with vaulted ceiling. second floor laundry. Master suite with private bath and a walk in closet. Loads of storage and great mud room.
  • From $599,995
    5 Bedrooms, 4 Full Baths, 3575 Sq. Ft.
    Toll Brothers
    (248) 924-2601
    Beautiful home in prestigious Steeplechase of Northville, still time to make your personalized selections.. Situated on a wooded walkout home site on a private cul-de-sac. Stunning features include a first-floor guest suite with full bath. Upstairs are 4 bedrooms and 3 baths! Amazing finishes throughout. MLS Number: 213004292

Seen in the PhotoStore

Detroit News PhotoStore

Purchase Detroit News images of historic events, scenes, places and people.

Go to the PhotoStore

Subscribe

Sign up for home delivery today

Follow Us On Twitter

The Detroit News Apps

Stay up to date on the go with the latest from The Detroit News apps

Our apps connect you with the best news, sports, auto and entertainment coverage from our team of award-winning journalists.