Advertisement

You will be redirected to the page you want to view in  seconds.

February 17, 2013 at 6:26 pm

Vincent Goodwill

Remember, Michael Jordan and LeBron James both have flaws

LeBron James’ six-game streak of 30 points or more on 60 percent shooting in each game has many wondering aloud if he’s the greatest player ever. (Scott Halleran/Getty Images)

Houston — Are iconic players overrated or underappreciated when compared to players of today?

That's the question that had the NBA buzzing in recent days. Michael Jordan's 50th birthday has coincided with LeBron James' historic stretch of efficiency, sparking various conversations, with opinions and emotions all across the board.

Jordan, when asked about the comparison between James and Kobe Bryant, chose the player who most resembles himself, Bryant, a five-time NBA champion.

"Five (titles) beats one every time I look at it," Jordan told NBA TV's Ahmad Rashad. "And not that (James) won't get five. He may get more than that, but five is bigger than one."

Jordan's six titles are indeed the standard of which all great players are judged, and Bryant comes close, even though it doesn't appear he'll equal or top Jordan's mark — and don't think Jordan isn't smiling about that.

James' six-game streak of 30 points or more on 60 percent shooting in each game has many wondering aloud if he's the greatest to ever do it. In his 10th year, he's at the peak of his powers, physically and mentally, likely to win his fourth Most Valuable Player award.

While it's considered sacrilege to speak against Jordan as a player (his front office resume leaves much to be desired, though), James did well to speak up for himself, although one can't argue against ghosts — especially ghosts who are undefeated in the NBA Finals (Jordan was six for six, with six Finals MVPs).

"(Jordan) said he would take Kobe over me because ... five rings are better than one, and the last time he checked, five is better than one," James said. "At the end of the day, rings don't always define someone's career. If that's the case, then I'd sit up here and say I would take (Bill) Russell over Jordan. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't take Russell over Jordan. Russell has 11 rings, Jordan has six. I wouldn't do that."

Arguments abound

It places a supremely talented overachiever (Jordan) against arguably the greatest all-around physical talent this league has ever seen in James.

It brings out nonsensical arguments on both sides, acting as if one has a spotless resume and the other's is tarnished by circumstances beyond their control.

Jordan, despite his perfection in the Finals, benefitted from a watered-down league with other flawed superstars who couldn't match his intensity, drive and overall talent. But he forgets many crowned him as the greatest well before he reached six rings, and well before his first retirement.

The number of rings wasn't the defining thing; simply becoming a champion elevated a player into a certain strata back then, because titles were so hard to come by.

Stars like Magic Johnson, Larry Bird and Isiah Thomas were on the tail ends of their respective primes, and Jordan's greatest test as a champion came in the form of Karl Malone (1997 and '98 Finals), perhaps the most flawed superstar of his time.

For James, while he can say championships aren't everything, he sure left Cleveland in search of that elusive championship, landing in Miami with Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh. His point is well-received, but you can't have it both ways.

While it's unfair to solely base greatness off championships, there's something to be said about climbing the mountain, repeatedly, because no two title teams, no two seasons, no two challenges are the same.

Time and perspective

Jordan was the ultimate competitor and wanted to obliterate his competition. He sees that in Bryant, while some still question if James is on that level.

"It's something we all know. In terms of winning championships, it's the most important thing. That's what it all comes down to," Bryant said. "That's why we all make sacrifices. That's what I knew coming into the league. You have to win titles to sit at that same lunch table as Magic and Michael and so forth. LeBron knows that, and it's a challenge he's willing to accept."

It's also why legends like Jordan have begun to respect Bryant on a deeper level in recent years, because he's crossed the threshold from young talent to wily veteran, finding ways to get it done.

It's why the older players cringe when hearing of James' exploits being treated as if greatness never occurred before he laced up his Nikes in 2003. It's almost as if they're saying aloud, "Don't you know your history?"

The generation that stands up for James sees more difficult competition from the top, and view his two NBA Finals failures as referendums on the teams he played with more than mental flaws within James himself.

Unfortunately, there's no room for nuance and constructive conversation when emotion rules an argument.

While both sides have their respective points, the age old question remains, without an answer. It's great to have discussions such as these, but both sides should remember there's holes in even the best cases.

Join the Conversation

The Detroit News aims to provide a forum that fosters smart, civil discussions on the news and events that we cover. The News will not condone personal attacks, off topic posts or brutish language on our site. If you find a comment that you believe violates these standards, please click the "X" in the upper right corner of the post to report it.

  • Policies
  • Community Policy
  • Privacy Policy
  • Terms of Service


More From Columnists

  • From $599,995
    5 Bedrooms, 4 Full Baths, 3575 Sq. Ft.
    Toll Brothers
    (248) 924-2601
    Beautiful home in prestigious Steeplechase of Northville, still time to make your personalized selections.. Situated on a wooded walkout home site on a private cul-de-sac. Stunning features include a first-floor guest suite with full bath. Upstairs are 4 bedrooms and 3 baths! Amazing finishes throughout. MLS Number: 213004292
  • $1,499,000
    3 Bedrooms 4 Full Baths 1 Half Baths 4006 Sq. Ft. ID# 213041742 Year Built: 2000 On HomeFinder.com 05/06/13
    SKBK SOTHEBY'S INTERNATIONAL REALTY
    Dan Gutfreund
    P (877) 670-0569
    Magnificent downtown Birmingham colonial home. not a single detail has been missed. mahogany entry door, 10 foot ceilings, neutral decor, crown molding and oak wood floors throughout. spectacular cantilevered staircase with ebony finish, oak handrail and custom wrought iron balusters. premium gourmet kitchen with cherry wood cabinetry and granite counter tops.
  • $469,000
    5 Bedrooms 4 Full Baths ID# 213046416-48348 Year Built: 1998 On HomeFinder.com 05/17/13
    REAL ESTATE ONE
    Barbara McClure
    P (888) 367-4761
    Enviable deerwood custom home w/attention crafted w/ finest materials showstopper kitchen/great rm/hearth rm combo accented w/one of 3 first floor fireplaces,stainless appliances & cherry cabinetry. three door walls open to side & back decks each adorned w/ awnings. dine w/romantic fire or sit w/ your favorite e-reader. elegant spacious master w/ tray ceiling,separate vanity, soaking jacuzzi. love the upstairs laundry. basement prof fin w/slate flrs,bar.
  • $899,000
    5 Bedrooms 4 Full Baths 1 Half Baths 3943 Sq. Ft. ID# 31124916 Year Built: 1960 On HomeFinder.com 11/01/12
    Higbie Maxon Agney
    Patricia Verb
    P (877) 670-0562
    Stunningly redone colonial on fabulous park-like lot located close to the lake. circular drive with brick pavers, professionally landscaped. 5 br- 4. 5 baths with solarium garden/sun room with pewabic tile floor. newer kitchen (with bbq), top line appl. and cabinets. newer baths, newer windows, finished basement, heated garage. 24 hr. notice for appt. exclude all window treatments
  • From $243,900
    4 bedroom, 2 bathroom, 3 garage, 3,080 sq.ft., 2 story.
    Allen Edwin Homes
    (800) 267-5401
    Featuring over 3,000 square feet of living space, the options for up to six bedrooms, five and a half baths and three stall attached garage.
  • $490,000
    4 Bedrooms 2 Full Baths 1 Half Baths ID# 213030986-48187 Year Built: 2003 On HomeFinder.com 04/13/13
    REAL ESTATE ONE - Livonia
    John Scott
    P (734) 347-0078
    No showings until 5-17-2013 sensational home in beautiful south hampton ridge subdivision. rich cherry cab.,granite counter tops,wet bar in butlers pantry. beautiful 2 story family rm w/2-story windows,recessed lighting,ceiling fans, sliding doors from breakfast nook lead to large paver patio to enjoy the wooded back yard. some rooms freshly painted 9 ft. ceiling partially finished basement. basement is prepped for 3 piece bath.
  • $1,095,000
    6 Bedrooms 3 Full Baths 1 Half Baths 3450 Sq. Ft. ID# 2932997 On HomeFinder.com 08/26/09
    Coldwell Banker Schmidt
    Linda Burns Vining
    P (888) 206-5390
    Warning subject to short sale. lovely lake michigan home with 108 feet of private frontage, nestled in gated community with approx. 120 acres of woods and trails, tennis courts and medium bluff, quality abounds with many updates such as brand new furnace, corian tops, gorgeous 2 story fieldstone fireplace, large wrap around deck for entertaining, large newer lake side sun porch for watching the beautiful sunsets, wonderful lodge-chalet feel, plenty of room for the extended family gatherings or to have all the friends out to the lake, home offers electric tram or stairs to the beach, great location quick and easy to the downtown activities for the night life......... home warranty included for worry free living, call for your private showing today. bank is ready for offers.

Seen in the PhotoStore

Detroit News PhotoStore

Purchase Detroit News images of historic events, scenes, places and people.

Go to the PhotoStore

Subscribe

Sign up for home delivery today

Follow Us On Twitter

The Detroit News Apps

Stay up to date on the go with the latest from The Detroit News apps

Our apps connect you with the best news, sports, auto and entertainment coverage from our team of award-winning journalists.